Georgia oak species   Robert Leverett
  Sep 19, 2005 06:20 PDT 


   Could you list the species of oaks that you commonly deal with in
just southern Georgia - say south of Atlanta, along with an indication
of which ones are commonly distributed, which ones are common in limited
regions, and which ones are rare throughout. I often forget how diverse
the southern forests are relative to our greatly simplified northeastern
forests. Thanks.


Willard Fell wrote:
I can say in all confidence it is an oak tree, Quercus!!!!

It was listed for years as the national champ Durand Oak, Q. durandii.
It looks like no Durand oak in any of my books. To me it looks like some
variety of Q. margaretta. After several years of asking anyone who would
listen, I came up with Delta Post Oak, Q. s. var paludosa. I have
letters dating back 30 years or more from various university
dendrologist naming it Bluff Oak, Q. austrina (possible) to Durand Oak,
Q durandii. Another problem is the national list uses Elbert Little as
the standard. They need a standard and I have no problem with that, but
he is a little outside the mainstream (my opinion) when it come to oaks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Will Blozan 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 5:09 PM

Will F.,

What "is" the tree?

Will B.

-----Original Message-----
From: Willard Fell 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:56 AM

 I have one National Champ. right now in SW GA that has been on and off the Nat List for several years do to my inability to get a generally accepted ID on it. It is giving me fits. You wouldn't believe the correspondence I've had on this one tree.  Any takers?

RE: No. of oak species    Willard Fell
   Sep 19, 2005 07:21 PDT 

In SE GA coastal plain;

Live; virginiana
Sand Live; geminata
Maritime Live; maritima
Dwarf Live; minima (limited)
S. Red; falcata
Cherrybark; pagodafolia
White; alba
Bluff; austrina (limited)
Durand; durandii (limited)
Myrtle; mytifolia (limited)
Chapman; chapmanii (limited)
Overcup; lyrata
Bluejack; incana
Swamp Chestnut; michauxii
Blackjack; marylandica
Turkey; laevis
Laurel; laurifolia
Darlington; hemisphaerica
Water; nigra
Willow; phellos
Shumard; shumardii (limited)
Sand Post; margeretta
Black; velutina
Runner; ?

In SW GA add
Arkansas; arkansana (limited)
Nuttall; nuttallii (limited)

In the lower Piedmont south of Atlanta add
Scarlet; coccinea
N. Red; rubra
Chestnut; prinus
Georgia; Georgiana (rare)
Oglethorpe; oglethorpensis (rare)
Post; stellata
Chinkapin; muehlenbergii (limited)

I am sure there are others that don't come to mind.

RE: No. of oak species   Robert Leverett
  Sep 19, 2005 08:04 PDT 


    Man, that's wild! In central and southern New England, I see N.
reds, blacks, whites, swamp whites, chestnut, pin, scarlet, scrub (or
bear), in one tiny spot, bur, and in another spot, chinkapin. That's all
I see. There's some post oak in extreme eastern MA.

    Every now and then a simple counting of the species keeps those of
us up in these parts properly humbled.

RE: No. of oak species   Willard Fell
  Sep 19, 2005 08:51 PDT 

The mountains of GA don't add that much. Over on the ridge & valley you pick up a few Bur Oaks and Pin Oaks and the rare (in GA) Shingle Oak.

We also have a number of introduced species....
Cork Oak
Sawtooth Oak
Chinese Evergreen Oak.
Japanese Evergreen Oak
Blue Japanese Oak
English Oak