RE: PA state co-champion northern red oak
  Jul 01, 2005 21:36 PDT 
Bob, Dale, ENTS

Revisited the old red oak, and some neighboring trees on a save area of Edgemont township land in Delaware county Pa. Had to get a laser on it, with all this talk.

I am usually close on measurements with a clinometer versus a laser, although I use the laser all the time now. When I go back and check my old numbers, they are usually close.

Edgemont red oak

17.9 CBH she has grown in a couple of years, good sign
96.1 ft tall off by ten from the clinometer of 106
99' avg spread a little wider than last time.

336 total points.

In this same area I measured several other trees, all single stem forest trees, the above red oak is on the edge of the woods. If you have read Mike and Jess' latest post these trees will seem small, but here it goes. They are tall for around here.

12.1 x 95.4
9.9 x 94.3

shagbark hickory
7.5 x 118.2

mockernut hickory

8.2 x 112.5

I may be able to get some better shots in winter for height. There are a couple of girthy tulips in there with tops missing too.

Some other trees I visited were listed in the Penn Trees book of 1982

Found the Windmere sycamore
25.2 x 90.2 114 spread by 105 spread. measured at 4.5' too

Found the Darlington white oak
19.3 x 96.0 93' spread

Found the Strode white oak
20.1 x 81.9 84 spd

It was a good day to be off from work.

RE: PA state co-champion northern red oak   Dale J. Luthringer
  Jul 04, 2005 18:16 PDT 

That N. red oak is quite a dandy! Very nice, VERY NICE!

Your 7.5ft CBH x 118.2ft high shagbark is a new height record for PA. I
bet we'll eventually find them in the low 130's eventually. I just
haven't had much luck of getting into any decent stands of them up my

Are the Windmere sycamore, Darlington & Strode white oaks singles?
Those are some sweeeet trees!

Great job and documenting these beauties. 

RE: PA state co-champion northern red oak
  Jul 05, 2005 03:44 PDT 

Both of the white oaks were singles. The sycamore was more difficult, as it did branch above 4.5', but was very difficult to tell just how it grew. This tree was documented in 1932, then again in 1982 as being 250-300 years old. It's habit is typical of those found in flood plains in this area. Still an impressive big tree.