| How
Many Left? |
dbhg-@comcast.net |
| May
02, 2004 07:58 PDT |
Dale:
The addition of #61 in MTSF yesterday made me
wonder just how many more 150s are lurking in your primary
forest Mecca (and my secondary) Cook Forest. I don't recall the
full age distribution of pines in Cook. I do know that Anthony
Cook has lots of younger pines on his land, but I don't know
what the age range is? Do you have a feel? I hope to get over to
Cook at least once this summer to walk through some of the less
visited spots with you.
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Bob
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| RE:
How Many Left? |
Dale
J. Luthringer |
| May
03, 2004 06:32 PDT |
Bob,
Great work on finding #61. There always seems to be just one
more
surprise waiting for us just out of view...
I haven't spent a lot of time in Anthony's second growth white
pine
stand. They don't appear to be over much over 130ft from what I
can see
from the road. I did find at least one nice one on the slope
that went
to just over 140ft off the Indian Trail as you go up that trail
from the
Indian Cabins.
I've pretty much wrapped up the section of white pines that
Anthony owns
around the Indian Springs in the vicinity of Joyce Kilmer and
Bridle
Trails. There are a few dandies in there, but when you proceed
south
towards his house and drop over the hill, the heights seem to
greatly
diminish, but I haven't walked the whole slope. That is a south
facing
slope behind his house. The whole area from the periphery seems
unimpressive for white pine.
Dale
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| RE:
How Many Left? |
Robert
Leverett |
| May
03, 2004 08:12 PDT |
Dale:
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Do
you have a good feel for how many acres of white pines there are
in Cook with younger pines that could grow into the 150 class?
Bob
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| RE:
How Many Left? |
Dale
J. Luthringer |
| May
03, 2004 17:27 PDT |
Bob,
Good question on the number of acres of young pines that could
grow into
the 150ft class. My first thought is of pockets separated from
the
Forest Cathedral in the 140's, but most of these are over
175-200 years.
The only sections I can think of would be the following:
at the terminus of the Troutman Run watershed and its associated
ravine
by the Clarion River. I've got pines growing here that almost
reach
150ft in the valley that have grown within an old logging
site/splash
dam. They may by in the 150-175 year age class (~25 acres).
The other section would be a definite young white pine section
that I
described earlier along the Indian Trail east of Indian Cabins
(~25
acres).
There are some promising white pine just east of the state park
campground in the vicinity of Ridge Trail. Many are quite fat,
10-11ft
CBH, x ~130-139ft. But they're mostly on a hilltop, some drop
down the
ridge a little bit (~10acres). A good example of what is in
there would
be to take a look at the white pine that are growing at the
bottom of
the hill behind the amphitheater. The pines on the edge of the
campground are in the 125-135ft class I believe.
What I'm looking at that will bump up the tally for the 150ft
class
would be a series of older pines in the Forest Cathedral that
are in the
upper 140's. I bet if I remeasured them, some were last measured
in
2001, we'd probably get close to 15-20 more in the 150ft class
than
including those damaged by wind & lightning.
Dale
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