Hophornbeam:  Heading to Ash Flats, MTSF, Mass.   John Eichholz
  Sep 06, 2004 18:26 PDT 

That would be great if the timing works. I went up again today, and
somehow missed any groves of super tall ash, etc. It would be nice to
have a guide. I did come across a few interesting trees:
Bitternut Hickory      114.0'      5.1'cbh
BH                        107.6'       4.0'cbh
BH                        103.8'      ~2.7'
BH                        104.6'       4.9'cbh
Bigtooth Aspen       110.6'       5.9'cbh    Nice tree
Eastern Hemlock     114.1'       6.4'cbh
Hophornbeam          78.5'        2.3'cbh

The hophornbeam is not a typo. It is losing its leaves and doesn't look
so great, though. The leader was bare of leaves. I measures it a few

Oops, forgot one   dbhg-@comcast.net
  Sep 11, 2004 17:23 PDT 
     In an earlier e-mail I forgot to congratulate John Eichholz for the 78.6-foot hop hornbeam he confirmed in MTSF. Congratulations, John. I think John's tree is the second tallest that we've measured in the East of that species. I think Michael Davie measured a taller one in the southern Appalachians.
     With the addition of the hop hornbeam and the Norway Spruce, MTSF is up to 18 state or regional champions. 


RE: Oops, forgot one   Dale J. Luthringer
  Sep 12, 2004 15:27 PDT 

John definitely has a dandy hophornbeam. Best I've been able to do for
PA is the 1.9ft CBH x 71.8ft high specimen in the Tionesta Scenic Area.

Re: Oops, forgot one   John Eichholz
  Sep 12, 2004 20:06 PDT 


I've got to keep looking for them. The Birch family seems to do very
well in these parts, with several coves breaking 100' on yellow birch,
the tallest black and paper birches on Colby's list, and the
hophornbeams. I have even found a trio on Mount Peak over 60': 61.3'/
5.1'c, 63.4'/1.9'c and 64.2'/3.2'c. The best Hophornbeam sites here are
somewhat drier and more south facing than the yellow birch sites, which
are all facing north. Without exception I have seen hickories nearby the
best hophornbeams, which are fairly rare, especially shagbark hickory. I
am not sure this association would hold up on wider scrutiny.